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Warlock
Lance Corporal

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Posted - 29 July 2010 :  09:05:34  Show Profile  Visit Warlock's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know what is happening in reguards to the proposed new Qld legislation?
All I am hearing is bits and pieces. Could sporting shooters australia be an ally?
Should I still order a P90 or will it just end up confiscated?

“Walk softly and carry a big stick”

Spooky
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Australia
552 Posts

Posted - 30 July 2010 :  10:07:03  Show Profile  Visit Spooky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Info comes out on August 3rd I believe.
I do not know if the proposed changes are for or against the laser skimish industry.

Darling Downs Laser Skirmish
www.darlingdownslaserskirmish.com.au
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plan
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Australia
874 Posts

Posted - 30 July 2010 :  11:09:30  Show Profile  Visit plan's Homepage  Send plan an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
What we need operators to do at this stage is contact their local member of parliament (Queensland state) lobbying for commercial grade laser skirmish equipment to be explicity excluded from the new act as part of the list of exemptions in the regulations.

We also need to make the point to the local member that it makes very little sense to harmonise with NSW since by using the term imitiation rather than replice firearm, they have cause the police and the industry tremendous challenges relating to lack of clarity. An imitation has effectively been defined in NSW as something that looks vaguely like a gun other than those sold by a toy shop. Since real guns come in all sorts of shapes and sizes, making it restricted to have something that vaguely looks like something else, has proven to be a recipe for disaster. We should therefore lobby that in fact NSW should he harmonising to QLD law which talks only about replica machine guns rather than harmonising QLD law to the unworkable NSW rules.

We have already sent to all Queensland operators an example letter to use.

I also encourage everyone interest in our industry from a commercial and hobby perspective in Queensland to write to

Inspector Michael Crowley
Manager
Weapons Licensing Branch,
Queensland Police Service
GPO Box 892
Brisbane, Queensland 4001
Australia

We have to make it clear that our industry is main stream and that people from all walks of life enjoy this activity. Inspector Crowley is the main driver in Queensland behind the harmonising effort and is QLD representative on the inter-state council that has agreed in principle that all states must harmonise with NSW.

You should all be aware that in NSW the only model we do that is not considered an imitation is the Scorpion model. Even the Commando without any sort of barrel and which is very science fiction like is an imitation, requiring a permit and the permit among other things limits play to people 18 and over!









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bflpennine
Recruit

United Kingdom
10 Posts

Posted - 03 August 2010 :  06:48:19  Show Profile  Visit bflpennine's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi guys,
I'm just hoping that the UK doesn't start adopting this stupid law. We've had more than our share of lunatics with guns lately over here and whatever the rest of the world do, the UK usually follows. It would be a disaster for everyone if this law is passed, so good luck and get lobbying!

Andy.

Battlefield Live At Camelot Theme Park, Chorley. Lancashire.
www.bflpennine.co.uk
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Brat
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Australia
1060 Posts

Posted - 03 August 2010 :  13:01:20  Show Profile  Visit Brat's Homepage  Click to see Brat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I heard they will release the new weapons act on the 6th of August.

Disclaimer: This is 2nd hand information and my not be 100% right.



Äta, Dricka, Sova, DOMINERA


SES members do not get lost! They get Geographically Embarrassed.

Edited by - Brat on 03 August 2010 13:16:48
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Azrael
Private 1st Class

United Kingdom
40 Posts

Posted - 03 August 2010 :  21:57:12  Show Profile  Visit Azrael's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This sounds very harsh indeed!

a.k.a Mike T
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Spooky
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Australia
552 Posts

Posted - 04 August 2010 :  09:25:08  Show Profile  Visit Spooky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
this out today...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/toy-guns-will-have-to-be-licensed-in-queensland-under-new-firearms-laws/story-e6frf7jx-1225900889228

Now I'm totally confused.
From the QLD Police website...
"Q - Is a Weapons Act licence required to possess/use laser pointers?

A - No licence is required, however to lawfully import laser pointers, Australian Customs will require an importation of weapons police confirmation (B709A, B or D – import permit). You must supply full details of the item including milliwatt when making application for an importation of weapons police confirmation - B709A, B or D – import permit along with a genuine reason for possession of the laser pointer."
...and yet laser pointers are an actual (low power) laser that has been responsible for issues with aircraft in this country.

Darling Downs Laser Skirmish
www.darlingdownslaserskirmish.com.au

Edited by - Spooky on 04 August 2010 09:39:08
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plan
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Australia
874 Posts

Posted - 04 August 2010 :  10:36:01  Show Profile  Visit plan's Homepage  Send plan an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
Now is the time for everyone interested in our activity to write to
the police minister, inspector crowley and complain to the local member.

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plan
Moderator

Australia
874 Posts

Posted - 04 August 2010 :  10:58:36  Show Profile  Visit plan's Homepage  Send plan an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
Also in the courier mail
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/law-to-target-fake-firearms/story-e6freoof-1225900793134

Worth therefore people writing to the courier mail about the effect this will have on law abiding citizens and explain that we know from experience in NSW what a disaster moving harmless toys to be catagorised as firearms.
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gooner
Staff Sergant

Australia
799 Posts

Posted - 04 August 2010 :  22:45:29  Show Profile  Visit gooner's Homepage  Send gooner an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
Have you got a form letter with relevant facts that we can use and modify?
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zev-va
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Australia
575 Posts

Posted - 05 August 2010 :  14:53:35  Show Profile  Visit zev-va's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi guys
now you can see from the more than 100 comments on the Courier Mail article that the overwhelming majority say that banning toy guns is ridiculous.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/law-to-target-fake-firearms/comments-e6freoof-1225900793134

people who own their own gaming guns, should also write a letter to their local member of parliament and to the Minister of Police.

Here's an example / idea to get you started.

http://www.Battlefieldlive.com/LtrfromIndividualOwner.pdf


cheers
zev-va



Edited by - zev-va on 07 August 2010 11:09:48
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